Passenger Carrying Coaches
Maunsell Restaurant Cars
As modelled by Hornby
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New from
Eastleigh 13th July 1927 Restaurant Car 7861, repainted Lancing
Works 6th June 1928 thence again outshopped Lancing Works 24th
January 1936 following modifications with recessed double doors. During WW2 7861
was converted to Ambulance Coach 3711 (Ambulance Train 37) 14th
March 1944. Following a further visit to Lancing Works it was returned to traffic
22nd May 1946 in Malachite-livery before outshopping CLC-livery 17th
February 1955. During the
Western Section 13th June 1955 CWN period its ‘trailer’ was
unspecified. Diag. 2651 car
no. S7861S was repainted from CLC-livery to BR(SR) Green-livery on 7th
November 1957. It was sent for scrap and burnt at Newhaven on 31st
May 1961. Hornby Catalogue no. R4817 © BloodandCustard |
Diag.2651
Restaurant Cars
Summary Table
(Diag.2651)
|
7858 |
Released
Eastleigh Works 1927. Withdrawn
December 1960. Works
Record Card missing. |
|
7861 |
Released
Eastleigh Works 13th July 1927. Outshopped
Lancing (Olive) 24th January 1936 and damage repair 1st
August 1940 & 10th December 1941. Converted
to Ambulance Coach no.3711 (Ambulance Train 37) and returned to traffic 22nd
May 1946 (Malachite), Outshopped
Lancing in CLC livery 17th February 1955 (E4) thence BR(S) Green 7th
November 1957 (A2). Withdrawn
and burnt at Newhaven 31st May 1961. |
Hornby
Model Diag.2651
In
2018 Hornby released BR(S) Green-livery Diag.2651 Restaurant Cars S7861S
(R4817) and S7858S (R4817A) in with post-1935 /1936 modifications with the
recessed double doors and after outshopping from CLC to BR(S) Green (S7861S was
released from Lancing on 20th December 1956).
|
Coach |
Livery |
Diag. |
Catalogue |
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S7858S |
Green |
2651 |
R4817A |
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S7861S |
Green |
2651 |
R4817 |
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New Eastleigh
22nd June 1934 Restaurant Car 7998 received an Olive-livery
repaint 27th April 1939 thence Malachite-livery 30th
January 1947. Diag.2655 car S7998S was outshopped CLC-livery 16th
March 1956 (E4) and received BR(S) Green-livery during an A2 (plus damage
repair) 11th November 1957. S7998S was in
10-set 273 18th June 1951. During the Western Section 13th
June 1955 CWN period its ‘trailer’ was unspecified. S7998S was found on hand at Clapham Jct. 1st
March 1961 with cooking stove broken in several places and displaced. End
vestibule standing pillar displaced, End vestibule ceiling ply broken and
roof framing suspected fracture. Saloon cross seats – legs adrift. Damage
repaired Lancing 6th June 1961. Car withdrawn 1st
December 1961. Hornby Catalogue no. R40029. © BloodandCustard |
Diag.2655
/2656 Restaurant Cars
There were a number of minor bodyside
differences between the six cars built by the Southern and the further twenty
cars built in 1929 and 1930. The
Diag.2656 1932-built cars were (with the exception of
cooking apparatus) similar in body style to the Diag.2650 1934-built cars.
Wartime restaurant car workings were suspended (by Government order) 4th
April 1944.
Summary Table
(Diag.2655 & 2656)
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Diag.2656 |
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|
7865 |
Released
Eastleigh Works July 1932. Converted
to Kitchen /Buffet Car 1947. Withdrawn
September 1961 (BR(S) Green). Works
Record Card missing. |
|
7869 |
Released
Eastleigh Works July 1932. Altered
to Buffet Car 1954 (CLC livery). Withdrawn
December 1963 (BR(S) Green). Works
Record Card missing. |
|
7955 |
Released
Eastleigh Works June 1934. CLC
livery by June 1951. Converted
to Kitchen /Buffet Car 1953. Withdrawn
October 1961 (BR(S) Green). Works
Record Card missing. |
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Diag.2655 |
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|
7998 |
Released
Eastleigh Works 22nd June 1934. Damage
repairs (outshopped Lancing) 3rd May 1937, 25th March
1938 & 8th November 1944. Outshopped
Lancing (paint) 27th April 1939, Malachite 30th January
1947 (E), CLC livery 16th March 1956 (E4) thence BR(S) Green 11th
November 1957 (A2 + Damage Repair). Damage
repair (outshopped Lancing) 6th June 1961. Withdrawn
1st December 1962. |
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Hornby
Models Diag.2655 & 2656
During
2018 Hornby released Diag.2656 no.7869 (R4816) and no.7865 (R4816A) in plain
Olive-livery with sunshine lettering (believed correct for the 1940s-on and how
the later 1934-built cars were introduced). Whilst the dates for 7865 & 7869 are currently unknown, 7868 was
repainted Lancing 23rd April 1940.
In
May 2022 Hornby further released Maunsell Restaurant Cars in the form of
Kitchen / Dining First S7998S (Diag.2655 R40029) and S7955 (Diag.2656 R40029A)
in Crimson Lake & Cream (CLC) livery. These could be paired with a Maunsell
Diag.2005 Open Third – Hornby previously produced Diag.2005 Crimson Lake &
Cream (CLC) liveried S1346S (R4835).
|
Coach No. |
Livery |
Diag. |
Catalogue |
|
7865 |
Olive |
2656 |
R4816A |
|
7869 |
Olive |
2656 |
R4816 |
|
S7955S |
CLC |
2656 |
R40029A |
|
S7998S |
CLC |
2655 |
R40029 |
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Diag.2656
Restaurant Car S7955S in CLC-livery. It was
outshopped BR(S) Green-livery 25th April 1958. Hornby Catalogue no. R40029A. Sadly, the CM&EE record card for S7955S is missing © BloodandCustard |
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Diag.2005
Second Open S1338S (‘Loose’). Outshopped CLC-livery 21st June 1955
it is believed to have been repainted BR(S) Green-livery 22nd
August 1957 thence into Lancing Works 6th July 1959 for conversion
into Pull Push set 600. This is
Hornby’s second model of S1338S for it also appeared in modified form as part
of Pull-Push set 600 (R3087). Hornby Catalogue no. R40101 © BloodandCustard |
Diag.2005
Open Thirds
These
restaurant cars were often paired with an Open Third (designated Open Second
after 3rd June 1956) to provide additional dining space. For example
S7946S (Diag.2651) was recorded being paired with TO S1447S (Diag.2007) on 18th
June 1951 and 13th June 1955.
Third-
class was designated second-class following the abolition
of second-class by British Railways on
Sunday 3rd June 1956 with the third-class ‘3’ already having been
removed usually during first post-nationalisation varnishing or repainting.
Hornby
Models Diag.2005
Hornby
produced Diag.2005 Maunsell open third coaches S1314S (R4538), S1327S (R4538A) &
S1338S (R40101) in BR(S) green along with S1346S (R4835) in Crimson Lake &
Cream livery. In addition, number 1300 (R4537) was produced in Southern lined
Olive green.
|
Coach No. |
Livery |
Diag. |
Catalogue |
|
1300 |
Olive |
2005 |
R4537 |
|
S1314S |
Green |
2005 |
R4538 |
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S1327S |
Green |
2005 |
R4538A |
|
S1338S |
Green |
2005 |
R40101 |
|
S1346S |
CLC |
2005 |
R4835 |
Between
February 2014 and September 2020 Hornby also produced a number of former
‘Loose’ Open Seconds in their modified form (one end gangway and both toilets
removed) within BR Green Pull-Push sets. Of these for a short period between disbandment of
Pull-Push set 619 for the 17th June 1963
CWNA, SO S1331S re-entered ‘Loose’ stock before withdrawal on (31st?)
October 1964.
S1338S
was modelled by Hornby both as a ‘Loose’ coach (R40101) and in modified form
within Pull-Push set no.600 (R3087).
|
Coach No. |
PP set
No. |
Model Issued |
Catalogue |
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S1338S |
600 |
Jun-12 |
R3087 |
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S1351S |
601 |
Sep-20 |
R4534E |
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S1318S |
602 |
Apr-19 |
R3512 |
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S1320S |
603 |
Feb-14 |
R4534B |
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S1330S |
608 |
Mar-17 |
R4534C |
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S1317S |
610 |
Jun-12 |
R4534 |
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S1359S |
616 |
Feb-14 |
R4534A |
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S1331S |
619 |
Sep-20 |
R4534D |
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Converted from
Open Third 1365 in June 1947, S7841S was outshopped CLC-livery 15th
May 1956 thence BR(S) Green-livery believed outshopped 11th
November 1957. It was withdrawn in September 1961. © BloodandCustard |
Diag.2658 Third / Composite Dining Saloons
Six Diag.2652 Dining Saloon Thirds were built in 1927. Numbered 7864 to
7869 they were paired with 1927-built Diag.2651 Maunsell Kitchen / Dining
Firsts 7858 to 7863.
In
1930 these were reclassed as Open Thirds and renumbered in the range 1363 to
1368 as follows:
(Their original numbers were reused for Kitchen /Buffet cars built in July
1932).
Summary Table
(Diag.2562 /2658 & 2662 reclassifications & conversions)
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Orig. No. |
Renumbered
as |
Date reclassified
as Open Third |
Renumbered
as |
Date converted
to Comp. Sal. |
Withdrawn |
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Diag.2562 |
Diag.2562 |
|
Diag.2662 |
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7864 |
1363 |
Feb-34 |
7846 |
Dec-47 |
29-Dec-62 |
|
7865 |
1364 |
Dec-33 |
7847 |
Dec-47 |
29-Dec-62 |
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" |
" |
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Diag.2658 |
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7866 |
1365 |
Dec-33 |
7841 |
Jun-47 |
Sep-62 |
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7867 |
1366 |
Feb-34 |
7842 |
Jun-47 |
Feb-62 |
|
7868 |
1367 |
Dec-33 |
7843 |
Jun-47 |
Dec-61 |
|
7869 |
1368 |
Jan-34 |
7844 |
Junl-47 |
29-Jan-54 |
Diag.2658 Third / Composite Dining Saloons
During WW2 all bar 1367 were converted for Ambulance train use. In June 1947
four of these reclassified Open Thirds (1365 to 1368) were converted to
Diag.2658 Third / Composite Dining Saloons, branded as ‘Restaurant Car’ and renumbered
7841 to 7844.
In service the Diag.2658 Third / Composite Dining Saloons (7841 to 7844)
were paired with Diag.2659 Kitchen /Buffet cars (7864, 7865, 7867 & 7999);
these having been converted in 1947 from Diag.2656 Kitchen /Dining First cars.
Summary Table
(Diag.2658 & 2662)
|
Diag. 2658 |
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|
7841 |
Converted
from 1365 in June 1947. Summer
1951 pairing with Diag.2656 no.7864 (Bournemouth – Newcastle). Outshopped
Lancing in CLC livery 15th May 1956 (E4) thence BR(S) Green 11th
November 1957 (A2). Withdrawn
September 1962. |
|
7842 |
Converted
from 1366 in June 1947. Summer
1951 pairing with Diag.2656 no.7865 (Waterloo – Exeter). Outshopped
Lancing in CLC livery thence BR(S) Green 16th May 1957 (A2). Withdrawn
February 1962. |
|
7843 |
Converted
from 1367 in June 1947. Summer
1951 pairing with Diag.2656 no.7999 (Waterloo – Exmouth*) Did
not receive CLC livery and was outshopped BR(S) Green 9th November
1956 (H). Withdrawn
December 1961. |
|
7844 |
Converted
from 1368 in June 1947. Summer
1951 pairing with Diag.2656 no.7867 (Bournemouth – Birkenhead). Withdrawn
29th January 1954* with no. 7999 now working with an open saloon. |
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CM&EE
record cards for 7843 and 7844 are currently missing. |
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Diag.2662 |
Operated
SED Dunkirk Boat Services with Diag. 2655 Kitchen /Buffet Cars nos.7878 &
7969). |
|
7846 |
Saloon
First converted from 1363 in December 1947. Outshopped
Lancing CLC 5th May 1955 (E4); BR(S) Green 24th October
1957 (A2). Withdrawn
29th December 1962 with its continental gangway stripped 21st
June 1963. |
|
7847 |
Saloon
First converted from 1364 in December 1947. Outshopped
Lancing CLC 4th February 1955 (E4); BR(S) Green 25th
July 1956 (A2). Withdrawn
29th December 1962. |
Diag.2662 Open Firsts
The other two reclassified Open Thirds (1363 & 1364) were converted
to Diag.2662 Open Firsts (latterly Unclassified) 7846 & 7847 in December
1947 and paired with 1947-converted Diag.2661 (ex.Diag.2655) Kitchen /Buffet
cars 7878 & 7969 for Dunkirk Boat Services (including the Night Ferry).
After receiving CLC-livery, thence BR(S) Green-livery both 7846 & 7847 were
withdrawn on 29th December 1962.
Hornby Models Diag.2652 & 2658
During May 2022 Hornby released 1363 (R40030) & 1366 (R40030A) in
Olive Green and S7841S (R40031) & S7843S (R40031A) in BR(S) Green-livery.
In August 2023 Hornby released S7842S (R40222) in Crimson Lake & Cream
(CLC) livery and 7844 (R40221) in Malachite livery.
|
Coach |
Livery |
Diag. |
Catalogue |
|
1363 |
Olive |
2652 |
R40030 |
|
1366 |
Olive |
2652 |
R40030A |
|
S7841S |
Green |
2658 |
R40031 |
|
S7842S |
CLC |
2658 |
R40222 |
|
S7843S |
Green |
2658 |
R40031A |
|
7844 |
Malachite |
2658 |
R40221 |
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Converted from
Open Third 1367 in June 1947, S7843S did not receive CLC-livery and was
withdrawn December 1961 in BR(S) Green-livery (having been outshopped on 9th
November 1956). © BloodandCustard |
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CLC-liveried Diag.2655
Restaurant Car no.S7933S on 28th October 1955. New from Eastleigh 2nd June 1934 it was outshopped
post-War Malachite livery8th October 1945 thence Crimson Lake & Cream livery
on 17th December 1954. Believed BR Green livery 12th
March 1957 and withdrawn 1st December 1962. Coupled to
Green-liveried S7931S (outshopped CLC
livery 2nd March 1956). © Glen Woods collection (Bluebell Railway
Museum) |
Surviving Maunsell Kitchen Buffets
Today just one Maunsell Kitchen Buffet car survives in the form
of no.7864 (Diag.2659, built 1932 at Eastleigh - E635, converted from Diag.2556
in 1947) which is currently
undergoing restoration into traffic at the Bluebell Railway. Withdrawn by British Rail 27th January 1962, it
is understood this vehicle arrived at the Bluebell
Railway on or just before 18th
March 1962.
Further
Reading
For further reading on these coaches Blood and Custard
recommends:
|
An illustrated history of
Southern Coaches |
Mike King |
OPC |
ISBN 0 86093 570 1 |
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Maunsell’s SR Steam Passenger
stock 1923 to 1939 |
David Gould |
The Oakwood Press |
ISBN 0 85361 4016 |
|
Lancing 1956 |
Glen Woods |
St
Petroc InfoPublishing |
ISBN
9 780956 765529 |
|
Talking Stock #39 Catering for Southern travellers by Hornby |
Graham Muzpratt |
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